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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2011, 07:25:46 pm »

You can use digital on any of the licences - up until last year, the ofcom application form didnt have any space for the 'colour code' that you would be using (now it does !).
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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2011, 05:33:36 pm »

And also about the usage in cars etc.. I came across it in the manual when I had to change my car clock.. Volkswagen (others may do) themselves, don't frown upon the use of Two Way Radio equipment.. but say that they recommend that the drivers have the equipment fitted by a VW Technician (with Ext. Antenna)

I'll reply back with a quote from the manual
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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2011, 05:47:51 pm »

I can't imagine any car manufacturer suggesting not to use comm's equipment. It comes down to the safety of the driver (and passengers) at the end of the day, and also the laws that govern the country in which it is being driven.

On the very rare occasion I am in my own car (which is certainly NOT going to have aerials sticking off of it lol) and need to use a radio, I just use a hand held with an RSM- public safety version. This way the radio can sit in the dash and i can clip the RSM to the sun visor to get the aerial that little bit higher. Or if I have a suitable jacket on i can clip the radio to my chest.

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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2011, 06:02:00 pm »

Quoted from my Volkswagen Owners Manual.
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"The Installation of M/P (Mobile Phones) and TWR (Two Way Radios) should be carried out by a specialist workshop, e. your Volkswagen dealer. Volkswagen has authorised the use of M/P and TWR for your vehicle with correctly installed external aerial and maximum broadcast power of 10 Watts.

When using M/P or TWR, faults in the vehicle electrics could occur under the following conditions:
     - No external aerial
     - External aerial incorrectly installed
     - Broadcast power higher than 10 Watts.

M/P or TWR must not, therefore, be operated inside the vehicle without separate external aerial or with an aerial that has been incorrectly installed.


Warning
M/P and TWR operated without, or with an incorrectly installed ext. Aerial can be injurious to health due to the extremely high electromagnetic fields generated!


Note
If you want to use a M/P or TWR with a broadcasting power of higher than 10 Watts, please first consult your Volkswagen dealer. They will be aware of any technical possibilities for retro-fitting M/P and TWR.


(Finally)..

WARNING
Please concentrate and prioritise your driving first! Never install M/P or TWR Retainers / Holders on the airbag cover or within its range of effectiveness. This would increase the risk of injury and the airbag could be deactivated during an accident.

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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2011, 10:38:03 pm »

I can't imagine any car manufacturer suggesting not to use comm's equipment. It comes down to the safety of the driver (and passengers) at the end of the day, and also the laws that govern the country in which it is being driven.

On the very rare occasion I am in my own car (which is certainly NOT going to have aerials sticking off of it lol) and need to use a radio, I just use a hand held with an RSM- public safety version. This way the radio can sit in the dash and i can clip the RSM to the sun visor to get the aerial that little bit higher. Or if I have a suitable jacket on i can clip the radio to my chest.

BW  Smiley

Yes, I do the same.. I'm not going out of my way to install a mobile in my car.. but I keep my GP340 in he cup holder, Speaker Mic clipped to the phone holder on the vent... it's all good;)
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2011, 06:49:58 pm »

Thought I'd put together a little bit on licencing, for those who dont know.

Ofcom is the regulator in the UK - www.ofcom.org.uk

If you are using radio comms, in the uk, then you need a licence. (with the exception of pmr446). It is ILLEGAL to use a radio without a licence. The penalty is a fine (up to £5000) or prison (up to 2 years), or both !).

If you are unlicenced, you are also making others lives more difficult - If you've purchased some radios off ebay, and leave them on their current frequency, how do you know you aren't interfering with the local hospital's radio system ? (and I'm talking about a hospital that used uhf radios for the crash team, who were being interfered with by ebay purchased radios...)

For the 'business user' there are a few types of licence:

SIMPLE UK LICENCE - this is what was called 'uk general'. gives you access to a set number of frequencies (3 uhf ones, some vhf ones, and a couple lowband ones). Costs £75 for 5 years. You can choose what frequency you want to use from the list, and can change as often as you like.

Advangates are that you are licenced wherever you are in the uk, no licence issues.
Disadvantages are that every man and his dog could be on this type of licence, and many many shops etc are, so it can be quite crowded. If you are in a field in the middle of nowhere, then go right ahead !.
 

SIMPLE SITE LICENCE - this is for site only use, usually within 1k of the base station. Again, a list of standardised frequencies, and its up to you to make sure you  dont interfere with anyone else. Again, £75 for 5 years.

TECHNICALLY ASSIGNED / AREA DEFINED - this licence is for those who have anything from a wide area system, through to county or country wide systems. Ofcom will allocate you a frequency, which they wont assign to another close user - so in theory, you will never interfere with anyone else, nor will you be interfered with !.
With area defined channels, you can buy a certain frequency in 50 sq km 'slots', over the UK. If you were a courier company, and you needded the same freq all over london, you could buy a 50km square, allowing just you to use it.

Tech assigned channels vary in price - £75 a year, to £1480 a year !!!!

Area defined can go up to £9900 a year.

Only area defined that's uk wide that I know of in uhf is Tescos and M&S.

For those who want to use the licence free pmr446 radios - go buy some from Tescos. Dont buy proper radios, then come and ask us to help you put them on 446 channels. Its illegal. Your 'proper' radio will transmit at a lot more power than the 446's were ever allowed to.

If anyones got stuff to add, go for it !

George, a friend of mine surrendered his licence as he barely used his own equipment as we usually used mine on my Simple Site. He now wants to buy another one and can't seem to find the link anywhere... Do you know where the application link is?
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2011, 08:30:59 pm »

Hi James...

All of the information is on the copy of your licence. As you have been through the process before I am sure you are able to point your friend in the correct direction  Smiley

If however you cant find the information on your license have a look on Ofcom's website. Everything you/your friend needs is right there- http://www.ofcom.org.uk/

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